Guys, Ive just been reading the lower post on ab training, Im following kieko's intermediate routine with skimmings and we have incorporated abs a couple of times a week. Ive talked to a lot of people and some say train abs every day and others say no need to train abs as they are trained in the compound movements. Whats you lot say ??

Abs are not like most muscle groups in the fact that you dant want to build extreme mass into trhem like you would with yopur legs or chest etc. Low bodyfat levels are what really make for impressive abs. If you are training all you body throughout the week with heavy compound movements your abs will already be gettin stressed. For example you would be suprised just how much your abs are worked during tricep pushdowns. I personally would recommend training abd no more than twice a week for around 9 setc - 2 sets crunches, 3 sets leg raises, and 3 sets reverse hyperextensions do this twice a week.

for me i have great abs i work mine everyday. i do a bunch of situps with weights on my chest right when i get up from sleeping. half way through the day i do a bunch more. then right before i go to be i do a bunch. for a couple of weeks i was doing 300 a day. it was to much so i quit doing that much. I always try to change the kind of sit ups i do so i work all my abs and i will always get a work out. well hopefully i help at least a lil.