hi just started training and ws told to train my traps separate to shoulders is this true

you can do, some times i train them together, because i feel that they get a sort of work out any way when i train my rear delts. sum times though i just hit shoulders as there quite big! up 2 u mate

i like to train myne on back day especialy when deadlifting. gets a realy good ache the next day when u add loads of shrugs at end of workout

When training back im totally wasted by the time im done, i prefer to do traps after shoulders whilst my grip is fresh so i can pile on the plates when doing shrugs from behind and from the front with a bar from a power rack  

i used to train traps after shoulders but felt i couldnt get full range ov movement due to them already being pumped from the shoulder workout so i now do traps after chest and my traps really get a proper workout and ache the nxt day so its defo working at mo.