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Hi Guys....

I've got some Axis-HT & 6-Oxo on its way to me.

I was wondering how best to use these products together.
Should I stack them together? And would they compliment each other by doing so, or should I do the 6-OXO first and then move onto the Axis-HT?

Any thoughts would be great....

Do not use them at the same time.  I would use the 6-Oxo first, have a break for 10 to 14 days before then using the Axis.

Reaper.

I just thought I'd write a quick update on 6-oxo.
As I stated I got hold of some a wek or two ago.

I started taking it as recommended on Sunday, so now I'm on day 5. I'm taking 3 tabs a day. Each night with last meal about 9.30-10pm.
The reviews I read about this are varied so I'm writing to let you guys now my personal findings so far. I will keep posting if anyone is interested so let me know!

Anyway im gaining weight this week approx 3-4kgs. It definatley boosts test levels, I'm feeling horny all the while and to be honest its a bit much.
I was wondering if steroids make you feel as horny during a course? Please let me know!
I am eating quite a bit more so couldn't really say if the weight increase is due just to the 6-oxo at this stage.
5 days in all I can say is it does boost your test levels beyond what I was expecting!
I dont know if the Axis-HT is as potent yet as I will follow Reapers advice and have a 2-3 week break before giving it a go. I will let you guys now how the Axis works for me in due course.........

cool keep updates comming, wana see how these two do. im debating getting some

djandy1uk

If you have gained 3-4 kilos - but are eating more - the weight gain is most likely attribituted to your extra calorific intake - as you have only been using the 6 oxo for a few days. As far as I am aware the 6 oxo is geared toward reducing any estrogen or aromatisation of androgens to estrogens - it doesn't directly stimulate your own test production. As for your sex drive it is hard to pinpoint exactly why it is elevated - there are so many variables. Regarding your question about steriods elevating you sex drive, clinically they are prescribed for a whole assortment of ailments and medical problems. Use the right one and yes I would imagine that they do!

Its week 3 with the 6-oxo....

As the first week ended, i started feeling fairly normal again- ie didn't feel like a rabbit overdosing on viagra any longer (TF!)  

My weight as continued to gain, but im putting this down to my increase in calories.

I'm not knocking the 6-oxo, its just hard to say if it is actually helping or not, at this stage im optimistic that it is helping somewhat...

thanks for your comment,
i m just order one 6 oxo and wondering will i feeling horny...
as your opinion...

possibly not.... im was but only for a few days... then just felt normal.... to be honest i think it would be better to spend the money on food as a good clean diet really is the biggest builder of muscle...

yes,

chicken is my favorite

Right I'm planing to use my tub of BSN Axis HT soon.... So was wondering how any of you have found it???

Another question for you guys....... I've got a tub of BSN Nitrix.....

Would you stack these two products together or do one then the other??? If so in which order.....

Advice please......

Use them both together mate, AXIS should be taken after food - Nitrix should be taken away from food otherwise its effects will severly diminish. I regularly use Axis as I feel it works great - I notice I recovery quicker and get good strength gains....
PJ

OK cheers for that........

Now i've read that when taking Nitrix, you should not be supplementing with L-Glutamine or at the least no more than 5g a day because they cancel each other out..... At the moment Im taking around 5-10g a day of glutamine, but now plan to stop whilst on the Nitrix......

I was thinking of loading up on Creatine next week for 5 days. then staying on the creatine the following week when I planned to add in the Axis & Nitrix...

Is this a good idea.......... Or would you keep off the creatine too whilst taking the Nitrix..???

sorry apparently you can have up to 10g a day of glutamine with nitrix just not at the same time....

Quoted from djandy1uk

OK cheers for that........



I was thinking of loading up on Creatine next week for 5 days. then staying on the creatine the following week when I planned to add in the Axis & Nitrix...

Loading any supplment you will have to take more then five days mate. You wont notice the full effect on the supplment in the first week. If for example you take Creating or Axit HT what ever.. the first week you will feel it but the body ajusts to it and the second week and onwards is where you will see the most out of any product

Perhaps that didn't come out right, I'll use the creatine for around 6 weeks.... They recommend you load up for 5 days ie take it 4 times a day to saturate the muscles with the stuff, this is known as the LOADING PHASE then you take 1-2 a day know as MAINTENANCE..... According to the side of the can anyway... but i've also read this on other topics about creatine.... I'm hoping it does saturate the muscles as they suggest as oppose to finishing the stuff of quicker so you need to go and buy soem more...!

Andy,
I started taking creating last week and started to feel the difference after 5 days. Going on maintenance now.  I'd be pleased to know how you get on with AXIS HT

ok John, I am planning to start using the Axis HT along with the Nitrix as of monday, so ill post every few days to let you know my thoughts...

This morning, I was going like a train on the treadmill at 6kph. Did 3 kilometres for cardio and felt I could have gone on for ever but stopped to start weights.  Suddenly felt giddy. Gym assistant thought it may have been dehydration.  Do I need to increase water intake when taking creatine? I also take 2 doses 50grams of whey isolate which as PJ advised me is a diuretic. also just started Grenades 2 days ago.

Creatine will make you thirsty mate, heard of quite a few story's can leave you with a dry throat.. saying that my mate.. with the grenades also im not suprised you need some water..how much are you even drinking now?

id say 2ltr min and 6 would be perfect.. water is like the gold hidden supplement....because its there and not being advertised you dont take it..where in fact its a major thing.. drink up m8

Thanks Tank.  willdo. I actually think Ive been drinking possibly less than 2 litres!

Try increasing the ammount you intake and im sure you should notice your energy and strength levels will increase just by the water intake.
If i dont drink the ammount my body is used to befor a workout i wont have the same intenstity workout. And even during workout i have a big bottle of water with me to keep me hidrated.

A good tip for making you drink more..say you go up to the water foutain at work..drink a bottle/cup THEN fill it again to take back to your desk..

Also.. if you have trouble with the taste of water.. you can make your own squash..without the nasty stuff.. get a bottle of water and put fresh fruit in it..ie an orange.. leave it in the bottle and leave it in the fridge for 24hrs.. next day it should be a nice tasting drink! worth a try

Creatine sucks water into the muscle, so most def drink more, if you dont you wont get the benefit from the creatine either....
The Grenades are a burner so somewhat a stimulant I believe, combine that with a bit of dehydration (which people are most likely to be in a morning) and a good run then, I can see your dizzy spell happening....
Iv heard someone before saying the grenades made them feel like they could push much harder and really motivate you.... Take it easy, you dont want to over do it.... The harder you train the more recovery you will need, try doing your weights first then have a gentle run after....this will burn the fat better for you...

Thanks Andy; I've also upped my liquid intake by taking pure orange juice to the gym. As advise I then take my whey mix immediately after Work Out. Trying to make sure I have at elast 4 litres a day liquid.

Ok This morning I started on the BSN Axis HT & the BNS Nitrix, and As promised I will keep posting how im finding them.... As im not on 6-oxo ill create a new thread called BNS Axis-HT & BSN Nitrix, as its more appropriate to keep you guys updated....

If used correctly - the AXIS and NITRIX are a very powerfull combo!