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nowdenlid
March 6, 2008, 11:37am Report to Moderator

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looking to start a cycle in the next couple of weeks .

i am 25 yo

5,9

around 12% body fat

180ish lbs

cycle will be

test prop @ 75mgs every day 10 weks

tren a 75 mgs every day 8 weeks

nolva/hcg pct

looking to add 10 solid lbs of clean mucale with this cycle ...what you guys think???



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You have a good lean muscular foundation - really you just need more muscle then your shape and physique will really take place. Without seeing all your physique in the mandatory poses its tough to say but no obvious weak points from those pix although I would say your arms need a little more mass to balance with the rest of your upper body. If thats your first course its a decent stack..

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You have a good lean muscular foundation - really you just need more muscle then your shape and physique will really take place. Without seeing all your physique in the mandatory poses its tough to say but no obvious weak points from theose pix although I would say your arms need a little more mass to balace with the rest of your upper body. If thats your first course its a decent stack..

PJ

yep arms are a real weak point for me and i have tryed lots of different rouiteins to get them up to par .....

this will be my 2nd cycle my first was well over a year ago so am fresh ....

was going to go with a pure mass cycle somethink like this .

weeks 1-14  500mgs test e

weeks1-12 600mgs deca

weeks 1-4 100mgs anadrol ed

now i know people say run test higher than deca but this is bull as all aas shuts you down and pct is the key part in recovery.

what cycle do you think is best for me????
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There is no single one best course for you. The best advice I can give you is document each cycle to every last detail so that you can compare your results and find out what works for you best. As for all aas shuttind down your test prodcution - of course - but the longer you are on the longer it will take to recover. I would suggest doing an 8 week course.


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8 weeks of???????????????

there gonna have too be short esters with only a 8 week cycle
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Think you are misinformed here mate - you can use either fast acting or slow acting - I would suggest doing four weeks fast then 4 weeks slow.  


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the long acting esters like test e/deca  primo/mast  dont kick in untill around weeks 4 so you would only get 4 weeks of full effect out of them...wrere  if yourunl short esters you are geting almost the whole 8 weeks at full peak ....

thanks for the help man.

i find it is vital to keep blood plasma levals at a stedy pace to avoid side effects ,if i were to do 4 weeks long ester and 4 weeks short my bloods would be all over the place only leaading to sides
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Long acting esters say with a half life of 4 weeks take a lot longer to kick in than short acting - obviously. What you are forgetting here is that they also take a lot longer for their levels to drop. So you if you did do an 8 week course on long acting - although it would take longer to kick in the effects would last longer once you had stopped - simple so you still get atleast 8 weeks of anabolism if not more.

If you were to do a 4 week fast acting followed by 4 weeks long acting the key is to make sure your levels dont drop during the transition from fast acting to long acting. For example if you were using testex and wanted to switch to test enathathe you would double up with both a couple of time so that you levels of the fast test were mainteined while the slower acting stuff kicked in. Therefore your test levels dont drop - infact they will for a short time be slightly higher. Starting with fast acting means that you feel the benefits straight away - then finishing with slow acting ensure you dont crash when you come off. When you come off a long acting med you hormone levels will gradually drop rather than dropping rapidly as with fast acting meds - hence the slower the drop the less of a crash you will get and the better your body own test will recover. You need to look at the bigger picture man...

You find it vital to keep your blood plasma levels at a steady pace to avoid side affects? Man said you had only done 1 course! You wont have the experience to know...

fyi - masteron is fast acting
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Anyhow good luck with your training and quest to be MASSIVE


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try cutting down on the amount you train your arms and incresing the intencaty. i.e do a few weeks of super heavy reps just 4 sets biceps 4 sets triceps. rember your arms over train faster than any other body part coz there used so much when training other upper body parts.

as for your phys so far you look good and lean. which prob means you have hit a bit of a wall so perfict timing
for the cycle. make sure you post after pics.


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