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Urine ingestion is frequently praised as possibly the best rejuvenation therapy known to us. It certainly rejuvenates the hair and the skin. The youthful appearance of many Buddhist monks is ascribed to their routine urine ingestion.

It seems that historically all cultures have used urine for medicinal purposes. It is praised in ancient Egyptian papyri, was used in ancient Rome, in China, India, America as well as European countries. The Journal of the American Medical Association states that in 'primitive medicine' there is scarcely a disease that has not been treated with the external or internal use of urine.

A 5000-year old Sanskrit text describes in a religious context in 107 verses the virtues of urine. In one verse Lord Shiva, the great destroyer and re-generator, says that he who drinks urine sweetened with honey is cleared of any ailment within 6 months. He attains brilliant brainpower and his voice becomes melodious.

One well-known urine ingredient is melatonin, the hormone of the pineal gland. It regulates our body rhythms linked to the dark-light cycle. It is produced in the night and mostly expelled with the morning urine. However it is now highly valued as protecting us from cancer and ageing. Melatonin sales in California are said to top aspirin sales. But why pay much money for just one beneficial ingredient when there are thousands for free?

Problems may arise from ingesting large amounts of urine if one takes medicinal or recreational drugs as these drugs may be recycled and cause an overdose. The same may happen if one ingests other toxic substances. However, harmful substances are not necessarily reabsorbed and may just cause diarrhoea instead.

How to Use Urine

There are various ways to use urine but generally it is advisable to start with small amounts. This is not only to get accustomed to the taste of it, but also to slow down any healing reactions. These occur commonly with methods that genuinely improve our health.

Reactions may manifest as diarrhoea, vomiting, nausea, skin problems or a temporary flare-up of old health problems prior to their final elimination.

Start with a few drops or a teaspoonful. These may be swallowed immediately and you may wash it down with some water or juice or eat a piece of fruit. However, with allergies and immune disorders it is more effective to leave the diluted urine under the tongue for a few minutes.

An allergic reaction can best be stopped or neutralised by collecting the urine when the symptoms are worst, however in practice you try to use it as soon as you notice the first symptoms.

Some researchers suggest that the proper dose can be found by slowly putting single drops under the tongue until the taste and temperature of a drop can no longer be distinguished. This is then the neutralising dose. Each subsequent day you may double the previous dose or the number of times you take them per day until you reach your target amount or the dose that you are comfortable with.

A suggested amount for general health improvement and rejuvenation are 2 or 3 cupfuls daily. More may be temporarily used to overcome serious diseases, especially AIDS and other viral, bacterial or fungal infections, cancer and kidney diseases. Drink only on an empty stomach well before meals as a large amount or strong urine after a meal may cause digestive upset. You may also need to take half a teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate one or more times daily before meals to minimise allergy problems due to overacidity.

In these cases ingest about one litre, the more the better, while for a limited period, say several weeks, try to drink all or most of your urine, except in the evening so that you do not have to get up at night. However, that may only be suitable during a cleansing period.

My favourite way to flush the kidneys is to drink 1 to 2 litres of urine before breakfast. Start drinking all the urine when you first wake up, lets say around 5 o'clock. Then you may urinate again and drink another lot about 6.30 and then again at 8 o'clock. Either drink sufficient in the evening so that the first morning urine is not too concentrated or otherwise dilute strong urine with sufficient water. If the urine is cloudy, as it easily happens during a healing reaction, you may use only a small amount. If the body is reasonably clean, then the urine does not taste offensive and reflects the aromas of the previous meal. The second morning urine, especially after drinking a fair amount of liquids after rising, is usually very mild and better to get accustomed to then the first morning urine.

Martin Lara (http://users.erols.com/martinlara/) describes injecting 1 ml of fresh urine once or several times into a muscle, e.g. thigh or buttock. This is especially recommended for cancer, strong viral infections and other serious diseases, it also helped to eliminate asthma.
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describes injecting 1 ml of fresh urine once or several times into a muscle, e.g. thigh or buttock
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may give this one a miss to be fair...ill stick to water i reckon


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Its only for hardcore guys Alan (i am not one either) i am not going to knock it untill i try it...............................................................................................so there may be a wait.
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hardcore guys - come on man - post somethin serious thats just a load of rubbish - injecting urine into a muscle would be a sure way to give yourself an infection and most probably an abscess.


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Whats gonna be next eat your own mess!
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stomper..give you £200 if you drink it and post a vid.. see how hardcore u are. show us girls what to do  
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Golden shower anyone??  


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Drink my own piss.......................erm, thats a hard decission to make............NOT.

Sorry but I don't care what some ancient chinese sandscript says, I'll stick to water, coffee, the occasional beer
and of course, protein !!

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hardcore guys - come on man - post somethin serious thats just a load of rubbish


Well hardcore urine drinkers, not bodybuilders, i know its rubbish but some belive in it and people do it, its a wonderfully strange world we live in.
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I have seen a guy on tv that does this and he even drank some of his wifes dirty dirty bastard lol. A doctor examined him and said he did have really good skin and hair and found nothing wrong with him at all but i think you piss for a reason that being getting toxins out of your body so i wont be drinkin mine it smells of piss lol.
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Well hardcore urine drinkers, not bodybuilders, i know its rubbish but some belive in it and people do it, its a wonderfully strange world we live in.


It certainly is!


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did anyone know that piss is atually sterile(spelling?) when it comes out the body? remarkable and yeah no thnx 2 it
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At the end of the winter of 1996, something historic occurred. During that February in India, the First World Conference on Urine Therapy took place. Scholars around the world gathered together to discuss the age-old practice of "urine therapy." Although urine therapy had been around for thousands of years, it had fallen into obscurity over the last century. Now, urine therapy was officially back in business. So what exactly was this alternative practice that dealt with one?s own bodily fluid? And how does it help? What are the claims of effectiveness? What does the scientific and medical world have to say about it? How does it work? Does it work? These, were the questions that demanded discussion.

OUTLINE:

What is urine therapy?

Urine as a lifesaver:

What is in urine?

What happens when you consume your own urine?

A closer look at the details:

How to use urine therapy?

What are the claims by urine therapy advocates?

Examples of scientific hypotheses involving urine therapy:

?Urine, enzymes and heart diseases:

?Urine, urea and liver cancer:

So what can we conclude?



What is urine therapy?

The basic definition of "urine therapy" is using (your own) urine internally or externally as a way to aid or sustain your heath. Urine therapy, which includes drinking, injecting, massaging with-, and/or bathing in- urine, is an ancient practice that is used today, not only in times of sickness, but also in times of good health for preventive health maintenance. It has been claimed to have proven helpful in a great number of varying illnesses, ranging from a simple cold and a throat-ache, to tuberculosis and asthma, from minor skin problems such as itching to major skin problems such as eczema, psoriasis and even skin cancer. But you probably ask, "How can your own urine benefit your health? Besides, isn?t it toxic?"


Urine as a lifesaver:

During the NBC Nightly News on October 16, 1992, Tom Brokaw reported that, "In Egypt, rescue workers found a 37-year old man alive in earthquake rubble. He survived almost 82 hours by drinking his own urine. His wife, daughter and mother would not and they died" (http://www.all-natural.com/urine.html ). We?ve all heard stories of individuals who have either lived or died by being trapped in places without food or water for days. In those stories, the survivors were always the ones that drank their own urine. The ones that died probably could not overcome the misguided thoughts that urine is an unhealthy waste product of the body. But it?s not; urine is simply a substance that the body does not need at the time, and a substance that the body secretes. And sometimes, it?s a lifesaver.

What?s in urine?

Urine, 95% of which is water, 2.5% of which is urea, and 2.5% of which is a mixture of minerals, salts, hormones, and enzymes, is not a toxic waste product. Urine is a blood byproduct and though it contains some body waste, it is non-toxic. In 1975, Dr. A.H. Free, published his book Urinalysis in Clinical Laboratory Practice, in which he presents a few critical nutrients found in urine:



Alanine, total ..... 38 mg/day

Arginine, total ..... 32 mg/day

Ascorbic acid ..... 30 mg/day

Allantoin ..... 12 mg/day

Amino acids, total ..... 2.1 g/day

Bicarbonate ..... 140 mg/day

Biotin ..... 35 mg/day

Calcium ..... 23 mg/day

Creatinine ..... 1.4 mg/day

Cystine ..... 120 mg/day

Dopamine ..... 0.40 mg/day

Epinephrine ..... 0.01 mg/day

Folic acid ..... 4 mg/day

Glucose ..... 100 mg/day

Glutamic acid ..... 308 mg/day

Glycine ..... 455 mg/day

Inositol ..... 14 mg/day

Iodine ..... 0.25 mg/day

Iron ..... 0.5 mg/day

Lysine, total ..... 56 mg/day

Magnesium ..... 100 mg/day

Manganese ..... 0.5 mg/day

Methionine, total ..... 10 mg/day

Nitrogen, total ..... 15 g/day

Ornithine ..... 10 mg/day

Pantothenic acid ..... 3 mg/day

Phenylalanine ..... 21 mg/day

Phosphorus, organic .....9 mg/day

Potassium ..... 2.5 mg/day

Proteins, total ..... 5 mg/day

Riboflavin ..... 0.9 mg/day

Tryptophan, total ..... 28 mg/day

Tyrosine, total ..... 50 mg/day

Urea ..... 24.5 mg/day

Vitamin B6 ..... 100 mg/day

Vitamin B12 ..... 0.03 mg/day

Zinc ..... 1.4 mg/day

(http://www.all-natural.com/urine.html)







The following are the average quantities of various substances, in 100 milliliters of urine as reported in Introduction to Biochemistry by Dr. Pharon:


Substance Milligrams

1] Urea nitrogen

682.00

2] Urea

1459.00

3] Creatinin nitrogen

36.00

4] Creatinin

97.20

5] Uric acid nitrogen

12.30

6] Uric acid

36.90

7] Amino nitrogen

9.70

8] Ammonia nitrogen

57.00

9] Sodium

212.00

10] Potassium

137.00

11] Calcium

19.50

12] Magnesium

11.30

13] Chloride

314.00

14] Total sulphate

91.00

15] Inorganic sulphate

83.00

16] Inorganic phosphate

127.00

17] N/10 acid

27.80





Some other important urine constituents are:

Enzymes?

Amylase (diastase).

Lactic dehydrogenate (L. D. H.).

Leucine amino-peptidase (L. A. P.).

Urokinase.

Hormones?

Catechol amines.

Hydroxy-steroids.

17-Catosteroids.

Erythropoietine.

Adenylate cyclase.

Prostaglandin's.

Sex hormones.

(http://www.hps-online.com/hurine3.htm)

What happens when you consume your own urine?

The small amount of toxins that are found in urine are not abundant enough to be toxic to the body. When you drink your own urine, it does not go directly to the blood stream. First it goes into the digestive system where its ingredients are sorted out. Then, the useful ingredients are recycled while the toxins are rejected. When the level of toxins becomes too high, the toxins stimulate the intestines into flushing themselves out to eliminate any stagnated excrements accumulated in the colon. Although we could probably filter out the toxins before drinking the urine, the toxins are needed because they stimulate a cleansing reaction in the body. Urine, which remember, is a byproduct of our blood, becomes more purified the more it is recycled. Thus, the cleaner the blood is, the cleaner the urine is, and vice-versa. And this is how urine therapy advocates conclude that urine therapy has a cleansing effect on the blood.



A closer look at the details:

The toxins of urine are also necessary to vaccinate and protect the body from future illnesses. The main theory behind urine therapy after all, isn?t that it straight out cures diseases, but instead, it is geared more towards building immunity to diseases, much like vaccinations. The small amounts of possibly toxic substances which can be found in urine largely seem to have a positive effect on the immune system. An important task of the immune system is to rid the human body of diseased or unusable substances that have developed during the course of an illness, and when these substances reach healthy tissue, the blood becomes stronger, the activity of leukocytes (white blood cells) increases, and the patient probably recovers. This phenomenon is known as auto-inoculation or self-vaccination and can be seen as mother nature's method of healing an illness without external intervention. Urine therapy, therefore, can be seen as a form of self-vaccination: certain bodily substances which have been removed from the body, some of which may have been produced as a result of illness, are re-introduced into the body in small amounts. These substances are re-absorbed into the blood through either the intestines or the skin, and the immune system is then given the chance to react appropriately.

How to use urine therapy?


Basic rules:

1. Midstream urine should be used, the exception being in a fast

where urine is being passed every ten to fifteen minutes. The

first flow should always be midstream.

2. Urine should be sipped like tea and not drunk like water. This will

prevent excessive problems in the form of loose stools and other

eliminative processes.

3. The first flow of the day is the most important and the best time

of the day to drink it is between three and four a.m..

4. Drink at least one liter of water per day.

5. Pungent and salty food as well as excessive protein should be

avoided.

6. Urine passed during the night before three a.m. should not be

used.

The quantity used is left up to the individual.
Initial adjustment phase:

1. Prepare the mind by making a resolve to at lease attempt the

process and examine your reactions, thoughts and feelings.

2. When you feel mentally prepared to attempt the actual practice,

collect some fresh urine and start by rubbing your hands with it.

Feel its texture, smell it, and see whether it can actually clean

your skin as well as some people claim. After about five minutes

wash it off with cold water and feel the skin to see whether the

urine has had an effect. Do not use soap after rubbing.

3. The next phase of adjusting the body and mind is to

put one drop onto the tongue. Taste and smell play an important

part in assessing its nature.

4. Eventually you should build up the quantity you take in until you

can drink a full glass of midstream urine and feel neutral in body

and mind. Then you will be ready to start more advanced curriculums.

(http://www.hps-online.com/hurine4.htm)



What are the claims by urine therapy advocates?

So what does all of this information mean? According to urine therapy supporters, it means that urine is not only non-toxic, but it is also anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral. Supposedly, a renowned heart specialist of Bombay, India, once issued an appeal through a newspaper to members of the city, inviting them to write to him about their experience of urine therapy and especially about any cases of detrimental effects. The man?s purpose was to demonstrate that drinking urine is harmful to one?s body and ineffective medically. Shortly after, the man received hundreds of letters in response to his appeal; however, not a single letter of those hundreds reported negative effects.

Urine therapy advocates claim that to this day, despite the countless number of experiments performed using urine therapy, not a single case has been recorded finding unfavorable effects. In fact, they say that urine therapy might be a remedy for polio, rabies, and tuberculosis, AIDS, growths and cancers, fatigue, anemia, all sorts of urinary diseases, for weight-loss, colds and flu, candida, diabetes, heart disease, digestive problems, prostate trouble, arthritis, glaucoma, rheumatism, cataract, venereal disease, leukemia, malaria, diphtheria, chickenpox, scarlet fever, rheumatic fever, bronchial asthma, orchitis, bright's disease, jaundice, scurvy, dropsy, burns, rashes, warts, bed-wetting, menstruation trouble, kidney disease, mucus colitis, pyorrhea, gangrene, etc. (http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158/URINE.HTM). In fact, the list of diseases for which urine therapy is said to be effective is around 175 known diseases?? an extraordinary amount for any type of medical practice.

Examples of scientific hypotheses involving urine therapy:

?Urine, enzymes and heart diseases:

One of the useful components that urine contains are enzymes. Urine contains many enzymes, one of which is called Urokinase. While doing research on this enzyme, scientist found that Urokinase causes vasodilatation and resembles nitroglycerine in its ability to strengthen the bloodstream from the coronary artery to the cardiac muscle. Today, Urokinase is used in drug form and sold as a miracle blood clot dissolver for unblocking coronary arteries. The existence of enzymes such as Urokinase in urine, might explain why urine therapy is said to be effective against arteriosclerosis, heart attack, pulmonary embolism, etc..

?Urine, urea and liver cancer:

Another important ingredient that urine contains is urea. Scientists estimate that 25% of the urea in an adult finds its way into the intestines, where it is decomposed into ammonia by intestinal bacteria. Some of this ammonia ends up in the liver, where part of it is converted into urea, and another part is converted into glutamine, an extremely useful amino acid. Because of its healing effect on ulcers and wounds in the intestinal canal, glutamine is essential in the maintenance and construction of specialized tissue, such as in the brain, the small intestine and in the growth and activity of the mucous membrane of the intestinal canal. The most important function of glutamine, though, is its ability to strengthen the immune system, and could be an important key in explaining why urine therapy is such a successful method of treatment. Another noteworthy application of urea can be found in the treatment of cancer by Professor Evangelos Danopoulos, who used urea in treating breast cancer, liver cancer, and several other kinds of cancer. Danopoulos noticed that the urea seemed to disrupt the ability of cancer cells to group together and apparently killed the cells by upsetting some of their normal metabolic activities. He experimented with injecting urea mixed with a saline solution in and around skin cancer and as a treatment for breast cancer. He conducted research on drinking urea dissolved in water in order to fight liver cancer, and reported positive results. In 1969, Danopoulos did a study on oral urea treatment in treating liver cancer. He gave 2-2.5 grams of pure synthetic urea to 18 patients with liver cancer, four to six times daily in capsules, syrup, or as powder. Out of those patients, eight had primary carcinoma and ten had tumors with liver metastases. In the primary-cancer group, two patients were alive after 57 and 36 months. In four patients, death seemed to be related to an interruption of urea treatment where they reportedly stopped their treatment after feeling better. And two patients died of apparently detached illnesses. The average survival period with the urea treatment was 26.5 months, five times greater than any previous reports, without or without the urea treatment.

In the metastatic group, the efficiency of urea treatment could not be judged by survival since the tumor tissue outside of the liver was more than likely not affected. While being on the urea treatment, all of the patients had a reduction of their liver enlargement. Six patients were still alive at the end of the study. Two patients who had liver metastases from breast and colon, were healthy at 19 and 13 months, respectively. One patient was in good condition after 17 months, and the other patient, who had a general disseminated disease and a moderate liver enlargement, was in fair condition at 40 months. After his study, Danopoulos concluded that the results justified formal trial of urea in primary liver cancer and also in metastatic cancer, since the results indicated a regression of liver cancer with oral urea treatment (Danopoulos ED. et al., 1974). Professor Danopoulos also began combining urea with creatine hydrate, another component of urine, and in this way, reportedly treated other kinds of cancers successfully.

So what can we conclude? ?

Although few people realize it, pharmaceutical companies have grossed billions of dollars from sales of drugs made from urine constituents. Today, research is happening nonstop in labs attempting to isolate specific elements of urine I order to make new drugs and new discoveries. Pergonal for instance, is a fertility drug that grossed $855 million in sales in 1992 (http://www.biomedx.com/urine/). Elements like Urokinase and urea, which have become gods to the medical and cosmetic world, respectively, have started to make the marketing and medical population view man?s bodily fluids a little differently. Obviously, urine has some valuable components, but does that make urine therapy a valuable alternative medicine?

Not necessarily. One must be critical of the various intriguing claims made by urine therapy advocates on the world wide web. Why? Because very little intense, authentic medical information and research exist. Sure there are many people who have come forward with miraculous stories of having been healed using urine medically and in survival situations. There is the 1990 story of the four Sri Lankan commandos who had drifted in a boat for over a 1000 miles to Thailand after they had been ambushed at sea, and had survived by catching turtles and drinking urine. There is the story of the male cook in the Philippines who survived 14 days under the ruins of a collapsed hotel by drinking his own urine (http://www.all-natural.com/urine.html). There is the story of the 92-year-old grandmother who is cured of gangrene, and the young man who is cured of tuberculosis? but that?s all the advocates have to offer for evidence of the efficacy of urine therapy? stories. Unless this information is being held back to the public for some reason, there is no hardcore scientific and medical evidence. Of course, the efficiency of urine therapy is difficult to study because most people would probably not want to participate in such a study, which leaves the world to continue to wonder, "Just how plausible are those claims?"

One thing that we must learn is that urine is not in fact "useless" and "an offensive waste product." We should lose our foul prejudices about urine? but to go as far as swearing that urine is the Savior of all medicine, is as deranged as saying those (in)famous two words?? "Got urine?"
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