Forget orals Jon - you want intra-muscular stuff - its much more efficeient and less toxic than orals!

agreed, I had to take anavar for quite a while in higher doses than you are jon before i noticed anything from it, its better nto use it with test in my opinion but if i were you i would sack the anavar and use some IM test, you wont need much mate, 250mg per week will do you

Thanks guys, I will seriously consider that.

PJ, I've dropped a order off to the shop.

Day 5. Saturday
Rest day; took all the pills as required. I manage to dissolve the 5 anavar  under the tongue, This is supposed to enter the blood stream without making the first pass through the liver and so there is less loss of the steroid. The same procedure which doctors recommend to heart patients who take nitro-glycerine tablets.
No sides.

Day 6, Sunday.
Normal WOs. After that  I’ve got DOMS across the shoulders where I’ve been exercising  the deltoids etc.
No sides apart from my appetite increasing! Almost starving from 7pm onwards, so took some wheat cereal.

Day 7. Monday
Rest day

Day 8 Tuesday
No change. Usual WO.

Day 9 Wednesday
No changes even after a strenuous WO which left my biceps and tris burning! Certainly no change to libido!
I’ve noticed that my weight has increased by 5 pounds no doubt due to being unable to do cardio because of cruciate ligament problems in right knee. I’ll need to drop the carbs a bit.
Blood pressure 130/66 pulse 64.

Day 10 Thursday
Rest day. No change, but weight has increased another pound . And that’s not welcome. Now at 15 stone 8 pounds.  I don’t think this is water as I “stole” a diuretic pill from my wife, but that didn’t increase the amount I pee!
Definitely have to drop carbs. I don’t want to try cardio as it may well damage that ligament more.
I might as well finish this cycle to see if ANYTHING happens. If not then it's emails to the suppliers plus the site he sponsors.
BP 131/71 pulse 61

Day 11. Friday
After a strenuous WO which left my bis and tris burning. Anyway decided to try and do something about that weight increase so started cardio on the exercise bikes. Last time I was on a bike was many years ago and it was my Honda 650!  After 15 minutes I had to stop. Got off the bike and OMG! My legs were so numb.  I couldn’t walk and had to hang onto the bike until I got my legs under control. After WO I noticed a muscular ache in the small of my back. A side effect I wonder?
Still eating very clean.
BP 130/73 pulse 59

Day 12 Saturday.
Today is a rest day; woke up with shoulders aching after yesterdays WO.
Now, your advice please guys!  
For months my weight has been a constant 15 stone following a diet plan supplied by PJ. Which is great!
Now I find that using this gear I have put on 8 pounds in 12 days, and it seems to have gone around my waist which has increased by 2 inches.  I am now an unhappy 15 stone 9 pounds.
Question 1. Have I been sent D-Bol, a bulking steroid instead of anavar?
Question 2. Can I lose this extra weight after the cycle?
When this cycle is finished I'm gonna do a  thorough detox.

Day 13. Sunday
WO wasn't very good at all today, but strength seemed a little up and I think the stuff is genuine as I'm starting to get backaches!  
Romper.how's it going with you?

Day 17. Thursday.
No changes at all.  I've emailed the supplier and await his reply.  

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Romper.how's it going with you?

Fine no problems at all, Jon this stuff is mild as are the affects, you will not notice a great difference if you have a high bodyfat percentage.
Strength should have increased for you by now if training properly which you seem to be. E mailing suppliers is like pissing into the wind. I              fortunatly have a very good supplier  so know all is legit. I am only using this to get back in into training and dieting properly and to regain some   strength especially after injuring my knee. I and other have seen a difference and i have added three more holes on my belt so the waist fat is coming off and strength increased to where i was at a natural peak. I will revert to a power style / power building programme to keep up the strength
gained and to increase muscle mass without over training as the whole programm is set out, reps, weights, sets this type of training has paid dividens before (for me anyway) takes the thinking out of it and has great variations in sets and reps never giving your body a chance to get used to it.
I am now off anyway.

OK, ended the cycle this week after 28 days. To be honest I didn't expect a lot and didn't achieve a lot!  
The cycle was handicapped by me getting a cruciate ligament problem in right knee; its not an injury as such but has been nagging me for some time and for the last 2 weeks of the cycle it stopped me doing cardio as its much worse.  I couldn't do the treadmill or biking, with the result that I put on 12 pounds in weight.  That was NOT good for me. So for the past week I've dropped the carbs and so far lost 5 of those excess pounds.
During the cycle after about 15 days I noticed that my muscles were certainly much harder, but no increase in strength or size. I got no "burn" when doing WOs, which I was told to expect. What I did notice the day after I stopped taking Anavar, was that my nipples were tender and rather enlarged!  This I did not expect as my researchs said that there was very little aromatize (sp) with this steroid. However I've got my Novladex for PCT. This has certainly been effective.
I got absolutley NO side effects; in fact my libido increased! I had only very slight back pains which could well have been due to my intensive WOs.
Finally as stated in a thread above; I contacted the supplier stating that the stuff was not doing any good and after a few emails he agreed to knock the price of it off the next consignment of whatever I may purchase from him.
To conclude, I don't think I did anavar true justice as I had to change my training and diet considerably due to the knee problem.  Got my doctors appointment Tomorrow to see about that.
I'm doing a de-tox this week. Only water and pure clean honest food. Also taking a few days off WOs. so I can start from scratch.

OK seen the doc and I need to have my knee x-rayed.

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I contacted the supplier stating that the stuff was not doing any good and after a few emails he agreed to knock the price of it off the next consignment of whatever I may purchase from him.

Well a guy that sells genuine stuff would not do that , whould he ???

Romper, I've written it off as an experience!

The knee x-ray shows no bone abnormalities such as arthritis so I have been booked into the physio to see what she can do.  Back to the gym today for the first time in 20 days an BOY! have I lost strength and stamina. The reason for the break was that the doc told me to not put any undue weight on the knee but gave the all-clear when the x-ray result as in.  It feels like I'm starting all over again!

Its only time..and within a short ammount of "time" you will be back to your very best